Amelia Ashton

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  UK Charity Data For WBTS

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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  2. entertainment

  https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/apr/24/top-1000-charities-donations-britain#data.

  thi slink takes you there.

  the list is long.go figure.. .

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  Amelia Ashton

  They are listed under 2 separate names.

  IBSA first then a bit further down as Watchtower. Add the 2 figures together and that's a huge amount of money they have coming in.
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  Faders Needing a Great One Liner

  by Solzhenitsyn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so our family fade is well under way.

  we changed congregations as regular attenders and left in good standing with those giving hugs and kisses simply knowing we "needed a change".

  we moved to a neighboring congregation that is out of our original region knowing we would see no one and the two boe's wouldn't really have immediate dealings.

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  Amelia Ashton

  I found out how quickly you can be forgotten when visiting UK after being in Spain about 18 months or so.

  I went into the hall expecting to be greeted like I had seen others being greeted excitedly and happily at conventions. Most didn't remember me at all so fading in a large city has been a complete breeze.
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  Do you remember when you realised it was all bulls£&t

  by moley in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i remember when my faith left me.

  i used to enjoy meetings and used to participate but then all of a sudden i was finding myself bored shitless at meetings.

  i was taken off the theocratic ministry school for not attending when i was due to give a talk and not long after did something naughty and got disfellowshiped.

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  Amelia Ashton

  Long answer:

  2008 I already felt there was no love and had doubts but it was the memorial so... A friend also struggling with depression and other stuff wanted to go to it but not ours so we went to the Spanish speaking one.

  In a foreign language it all suddenly seemed a bit ridiculous and pointless watching complete strangers passing plates and goblets up and down the rows with no one having any.

  I might have been to a few meetings inbetween I'm not sure but a year later and back in UK attending another memorial I was expecting to feel all warm and fuzzy now I was "back home" but I felt uncomfortable and like I didn't belong. That was my last ever meeting and still no-one has asked if I am ok or why I don't go any more. Zero contact from any of my so called brothers and sisters in almost 10 years now.

  Short answer: 2009 memorial
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  Faders Needing a Great One Liner

  by Solzhenitsyn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so our family fade is well under way.

  we changed congregations as regular attenders and left in good standing with those giving hugs and kisses simply knowing we "needed a change".

  we moved to a neighboring congregation that is out of our original region knowing we would see no one and the two boe's wouldn't really have immediate dealings.

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  Amelia Ashton

  Maybe try saying you missed so.many meetings because (make something up) or life got in the way but now you no longer recognise the religion as the one you once belonged to. The "truth" being taught now compared to the "truth" you taught has changed so much you need time to study and catch up. By the way, can you explain the over lapping generation thing cos I am really having a problem with that one. (Substitute overlapping generation for blood fractions, the resurrection of Sodom and Gomorah or any other doctrine you know they have flip flopped on).

  I am faded in a new town too (only 8 miles from my old cong) but still not bumped into anyone I know in almost 10 years.
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  Serious Problems Between Elders

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ever encountered or eyewitnessed problems escalating, arguements and rows between elders right at the kh anyone?.

  one such experience was just before the meeting was about to start,we heard raised voices from the second room between two elders.

  a minute later two other elders went into the room and we could all hear that they were trying to cool the situation down with whatever was going on in there.

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  Amelia Ashton

  That's some list of dishonest Jehovah's Witnesses.

  I don't think the ones I knew were on that scale but there was certainly scandal regarding "missing money" with one elder and tax fraud with the other (his father).

  There were 3 large families all originally from Carlisle who moved first to Tenerife and then all 3 gradually moved themselves and their businesses over to Fuerteventura which was just beginning to become popular. One family imported British food and opened a shop, one family distributed British food to shops, the airport and hotels (that's the business I bought and discovered they had been running it illegally for 10 years) and the second generation a brother and sister set up an estate agency offering 110% mortgages in off plan properties that were never built and people's deposits went missing.
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  Serious Problems Between Elders

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ever encountered or eyewitnessed problems escalating, arguements and rows between elders right at the kh anyone?.

  one such experience was just before the meeting was about to start,we heard raised voices from the second room between two elders.

  a minute later two other elders went into the room and we could all hear that they were trying to cool the situation down with whatever was going on in there.

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  Amelia Ashton

  I have no idea why but all 3 of our elders got a 6 month timeout and did nothing in the congregation while 3 elders from other congregations took over.

  The only thing I was aware of was the elders got approval for the new KH by lying about how many of us lived closer to the potential new hall than the shared hall. That was 2005. It has since been sold and they are back sharing again at the original hall.

  I've since made friends with an ex witness from their original hall in Carlisle in UK and she was aware they committed fraud while living in Spain.
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  Did You Feel That You Were Being Controlled WHILE You Were A Witness?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i never fully realized it until i was just about out.

  i adopted the attitude that “if mother says so, mother knows best!”.

  it took me a long time to conclude they were actually a cult.

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  Amelia Ashton

  I felt controlled towards the end. Maybe because by then I was older than most of the elders and MSs and had run my own home and business but being female was supposed to be obedient to males still living with their Mummy. A 21 year old telling me what fabrics my girl's skirts could or could not to be made of peed me right off.

  I had been out of full time work 6 months and was surviving on 2 part time jobs and money was getting tight. A job came up but it meant working every Sunday til 2pm. I took the job and was told by another "child," I was compromising my faith by not waiting for a job that didn't mean working on Sundays.

  So glad I'm out
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  Are Jehovah’s Witnesses as “Ministers” Teachers?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  all jws are supposed to be “ ministers”.

  i would think that anyone that is considered a minister should have immense knowledge of their religion and should be able to teach anyone who inquires of the teachings.

  my understanding is that most witnesses cannot explain even basic teachings without difficulty.

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  Amelia Ashton

  They get out their mobile phones and direct you to their website to answer any questions asked now.

  I'm guessing that's what they are instructed to do as perhaps only those with accurate knowledge of how the cult operates actually approach them and the org. knows JW beliefs crumble very quickly under expert scrutiny.
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  Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Bother You At All?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i faded from the religion and simply didn’t go back.

  once people understood that my family and i left, people in the congregation didn’t know what to do.

  should they call me, visit me, leave me alone?

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  It bothers me that wherever I go these days there seems to be at least one cart on route to wherever I am going.

  Yesterday 2 of them categorically lied about shunning and denied their religion practices it.
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  If Angels in the Bible are of neuter gender ? Then why are they always depicted as males by description and name ? And never a female ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in all of the art i`ve seen in christendom, angels always have the form of a male, and in the bible those that are named always have a male name such as michael ,gabriel , etc, .

  nowhere in the art world that i have seen do angels have the female form, and in the bible they don`t have female names.. so if the angels are neither male or female why then are they depicted as males with male names ?and not female also ?.

  the watchtower illustrators also follow this line .when they illustrate an angel it is always in the form of a male and never a female form.. the anointed who make up the 144000 comprise of male and females right ?

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  Amelia Ashton

  I'll play.

  Even if not genderless just celibate I always wondered why when such angels took human form they supposedly all took male bodies and had relations with women. Did none take a female form to have their wicked way with a man. If not why not?